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Dave Fritzinger  
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 More options Jul 4, 6:22 pm
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From: Dave Fritzinger <dfrit...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 6:22 pm
Subject: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac
Here's a bit of Mac advocacy for the US Independence Day.

http://tinyurl.com/68ajad

From the article:

In a YouTube video, posted below the fold, CEO Mathias Döpfner lists
four reasons for the change:

Most of the company’s layout work was already being done on Macs
Macs are more user friendly than other computers
Apple creates the most elegant computers
Macs are cheaper to buy and easier to maintain than they were in the
past
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Steve de Mena  
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 More options Jul 4, 7:41 pm
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:41:52 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac

It also said they'll be running OS X, Windows Vista and Windows XP on
these machines, so basically they have just added an additonal OS to
support.

"Apple creates the most elegant computers".  Wow, I'm glad he's not
the CEO of my company.

Steve


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Timberwoof  
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 More options Jul 4, 7:59 pm
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From: Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:59:32 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac
In article <baidnd-wU5XcKPPVnZ2dnUVZ_hKdn...@giganews.com>,
 Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:

Wow, I'm glad I'm not working for your. Springer Verlag is a publishing
company. That means they make books and magazines. That is an industry
in which elegance should be valued. If I had a staff of imaginative,
creative people, I'd rather inspire them with an elegant work
environment, including their computers, than pen them up in a drab cube
farm with Windows.

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emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.


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Steve de Mena  
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 More options Jul 4, 8:48 pm
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:48:34 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac

They're going to be using Windows too.  Just on Macs.

I don't see the business justification spending more on tools
(computer hardware) just because of their looks.  I wonder what
percentage of their employees are actually involved in the
"imaginative, creative" stuff you imagine, and how many are in routine
HR, finance, IT, Sales/Distribution, types of jobs.

Steve


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Timberwoof  
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 More options Jul 4, 9:58 pm
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From: Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:58:39 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac
In article <a-SdnWr5qaZ_WfPVnZ2dnUVZ_szin...@giganews.com>,
 Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:

Over the years I have learned to be distrustful of business majors and
lawyers who think they can build a business by hiring "routine HR,
finance, IT, Sales/Distribution, types of jobs" and ignoring the
creative staff. I wonder how they think they can get anything done.

Maybe you can explain to use why O'Reilly went to all OS X for their
operation.

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Steve de Mena  
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 More options Jul 4, 11:50 pm
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:50:18 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac

Do you have proof of that?  As I understand it, they let users choose
what they  want - Linux, Windows, OS X.

http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2008/05/mac-pcs-in-the-corporate-ma...
(see last sentence)

Steve


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Mike  
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 More options Jul 5, 2:35 am
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From: Mike <m...@nononccfaba.org>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:35:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac
In article <a-SdnWr5qaZ_WfPVnZ2dnUVZ_szin...@giganews.com>,
 Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:

I suppose one might just say from your comments you're just not a
"creative type" who appreciates the work environment as well as the
tools they work with.

Have you ever been around "creatives" in the process of their work to
see how "ideas", the guts of an ad, layout come together? I'd be will
ing to think you like drab, period.
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Steve de Mena  
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 More options Jul 5, 3:32 am
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:32:05 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:32 am
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac

I worked for years in a radio station, choosing the music played,
producing programs, etc.  We certainly didn't pick tools we used for
how they looked or felt.   A work computer is just a tool that sits on
their desk.  I'd rather have a more comfortable chair, or nicer lighting.

Steve


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Mike  
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 More options Jul 5, 1:15 pm
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From: Mike <m...@nononccfaba.org>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:15:15 -0500
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac
In article <2uydnQMfRK_ovvLVnZ2dnUVZ_o7in...@giganews.com>,
 Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com> wrote:

Steve, that's not what is considered "creative" work and you don't need
a computer to do it either, other than to keep a file list of the
content available.

IF you were creating content, that would be a different story, but you
weren't.

> We certainly didn't pick tools we used for
> how they looked or felt.   A work computer is just a tool that sits on
> their desk.  I'd rather have a more comfortable chair, or nicer lighting.

The chair and/or lighting come after the tools.

IOW, thanks for admitting you're not a "creative type" who appreciates
such things.

> Steve

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Steve de Mena  
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 More options Jul 5, 2:19 pm
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From: Steve de Mena <st...@stevedemena.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:19:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: Mac advocacy again: Springer changes to Mac